Possible deal with MM's IMO

[Razor]

I felt I should throw this out and see what all you others think about this. The MM's have been shorting CMKX but instead of sueing them in the future how but making a deal with them that they put our PPS @ $1- $5 to get on one of the Large Cap exchanges and make the deal where they can't short us out and they don't have to cover for those shorted shares. I might be out in left field but this way there wouldn't be any lossess on both parties.

[darrenbaker]

Sharp Thinking Razor......lol!

[CashinIn]

Razor: Never in 1 billion years. First off we don't know the MMs are really short the stock. Let me break this down for you. It could be some big time investor that payed the MMs to go short for him. Now why would someone want to short a stock at .0001? Because they want the stock to fail or have a huge R/S like AFRR did, now AFRT, a nice name for them I might add.

Also if they are short the stock they have been covering, and stealing money at the same time. Stealing? Yes, if you want to sell you have to sell at .0004 to a MM, but if you want to buy then you pay .0005, you are buying from a MM, not a shareholder. So that is stealing!

Also we cannot sue them. We will lose because they work inside the guidelines of the SEC. The best way I see, if CMKX is really shorted by anyone, is for UC to tell us the O/S, give us so info on how much CMKX is worth, and then give out a dividend. Even a small dividend say .005 would put a lot of puessure on any shorts out there. Now will UC do any of the above? I don't know, but I pray he does, and he has a #1 lawyer that knows all this stuff 1000 times better then any of us, so I think we will win in the end....these are just my thoughts, and God Bless...CashinIn

PS. If the MMs don't have to cover and the stock has say 37 billion O/S, but there are 300 billion shares out there then where will the money come from to cover this? The shorts would have to cover, or 1 share holder could run the stock into the ground. I have 50 million shares, if we open at $1.00, I could dump them all at the market. Once that is done the PPS would be back to .0005, and I am just one share holder, there are others holding 100 million and more. (Please note this was just an example.)

Razor said:

I felt I should throw this out and see what all you others think about this. The MM's have been shorting CMKX but instead of sueing them in the future how but making a deal with them that they put our PPS @ $1- $5 to get on one of the Large Cap exchanges and make the deal where they can't short us out and they don't have to cover for those shorted shares. I might be out in left field but this way there wouldn't be any lossess on both parties.

[CashinIn]

Here is an example of what happened to Winn-Dixie when they gave out bearish news. Look at the late Jan, date when over 20 million was traded it went from the $9 range to the $5 range, on just over 20 million. Now think if we opened at $1 and everyone was selling, volume in the billions. Where would you see us going?

[Razor]

CashinIn Its all theory's. Never say never. It could happen. I said that once about something and I sure did eat Crow for a very long time. So unless you know something we don't lets here it but other wise be humble about your view.
But lets say it went to a dollar after the share stucture came out AND a intrinsic value of the land was a conservative number $350,000 half the value of debeers per acre. Sure alot of holders would sell but there are huge corporation that would buy in and see this go to higher levels. So many people have very little expectation for CMKX regards to PPS. The realiy of it could go much higher than $9.00 PPS in say 2- 5 years depending on how many very good holes we drill. I just would like to know WHY some many people think that this cannot go any higher than a $1.00. I think those people are only short term investors. I have 3 positions short mid and long. In my opinion though when the stock starts to run whether Christian or not its like a fire in a movie threater nobody wants to get burned and they all tried to rush out those small doors. Will we still be as family like we have now? Greed does weird things to people IMHO

[Admin]

Indeed it does Razor!

We all have high hopes for CMKX! But we all know (or should know) that the overall history of similar situations does not always (occasionaly maybe) bear good fruit.

For what each of us paid for the price of admission, hopefully no one will suffer if it doesn't go the right way. If it does, will a rich man still put his faith in God, or the dead presidents in his bank account?

There are other stocks on this board that also offer extreme up-side potential. None has an admission price as low as CMKX, but it is important to spread the risk. The best advice would be to find 10 equities and divide your investment capital among them. If 10 is a stretch for you, at least make it 4. Diversify! You only need one to really, really, really make it!

Do I hope CMKX is THE one that makes it? Sure! If it doesn't, I'll shuffle on and keep loving God and loving people. If it does make it? Ditto!!!!

Blessings
CT

[CashinIn]

Razor, let look at what you said:

Razor said:

. The MM's have been shorting CMKX but instead of sueing them in the future how but making a deal with them that they put our PPS @ $1- $5 to get on one of the Large Cap exchanges and make the deal where they can't short us out and they don't have to cover for those shorted shares.

You said: instead of sueing them.
I said: We cannot sue them. We will lose because they work inside the guidelines of the SEC.

You said: making a deal with them that they put our PPS @ $1- $5 to get on one of the Large Cap exchanges and make the deal where they can't short us out and they don't have to cover for those shorted shares
I said: If the MMs don't have to cover and the stock has say 37 billion O/S, but there are 300 billion shares out there then where will the money come from to cover this? The shorts would have to cover, or 1 share holder could run the stock into the ground. I have 50 million shares, if we open at $1.00, I could dump them all at the market. Once that is done the PPS would be back to .0005, and I am just one share holder, there are others holding 100 million and more. (Please note this was just an example.)

Now you are saying if it went to $1, well it could go to $1, but the shorts would have to cover.

Ok Lets just be real, CMKX trades over 3-6 billion a day, that's a lot, so much that it's more then the AMEX trades on any given day, the whole AMEX. Now it the O/S is say 8 billion, then there are a lot of shorts and they will have to cover. Without them covering, we will not move up. There has to be a huge buying volume/ covering for us to sell our stock at $1.00. This volume has to come from the shorts covering, making CMKX shares harder and harder to get. Ok you got it. Now the never in 1 billion years was wrote because the MMs will not move the PPS to $1-$5 and don't have to cover, no deal would ever happen. This is why the MMs are fighting this thing tooth and nail. If it wasn't for the huge shorts, then this stock would have been moved to .01 or better. I think we will run once the O/S is out, and if the O/S is small.